St. Malachy. Thanks for your clarification. I could not have thought that God’s viewpoint about the popes would be different from that of the Magisterium. However, we see these things as through a glass darkly, so our understanding should progress as we near the time of Christ’s Second Coming. If St Malachy’s alleged ‘Prophecy of the Popes’ is truly prophetic: as evidence from later fulfillment seem at times to imply, then Malachy’s foreknowledge must have originated from the timeless existence of God’s omniscience. By posing the question, ‘why are the anti- popes included on the list?’ seems to have more to do with what would be expected from a hoaxer than from God.

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Wouldn’t a deceiver be more likely to give what is expected from a ‘prophecy of the popes’ by omitting the anti- popes? But, for God to have omitted the anti- popes in the middle of the 1. He imparted to Malachy His prior judgement upon the anti- popes, even before they were born.

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It is surely God’s will to judge people by their own actions, but only after they die. To have exposed His judgement before they were born, pre- judges the freewill of any actions they choose to take after their birth. I therefore suggest that if God did reveal the future to Malachy, He did so, using words that impartially reflected the future of the papacy, without revealing His judgement; which, if known, would have involved Him in the politics of Europe.

A case in point is Robert of Geneva (Anti- pope Clement VII). His papacy was supported by France, Scotland, Castile, Aragon, Navarre, Portugal, Savoy, Denmark, Norway and some parts of Germany, in opposition to Urban VI. Urban’s election was made under duress: with threats of violence from a mob that invaded the Vatican, and was threatening harm to the cardinals if an Italian pope was not elected. This caused 1. 3 cardinals to declare Urban’s election null and void through intimidation. It also allowed a second election to take his place, resulting in Clement VII taking the anti- papal title to Avignon. A prophetic list of papal titles, originating from God, if non- judgemental, would therefore have to include those of the anti- popes. Although I believe these mottoes tend to be accurate, I don’t understand why St.

Malachy included 8 anti- popes among the true ones. Does anyone have an explanation? Flu Bird Horror Full Movie In English on this page. Six more facts about the alleged prophecy of the popes attributed to St Malachy. The document was first published by a Benedictine monk, Arnold de Wion: a scholar who had been working at the Vatican on a 2- volume edition of the history of his Order.

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The prophecy appears in the second volume, on pages 3. Wion was introduced to the prophecy by Don Alphonsus Ciacconius, a Spanish Dominican scholar also working among the Vatican archives. He is said to have discovered it there. Ciacconius was an acclaimed expert in the study of manuscripts, and believed the Malachy manuscript to be genuine. If the manuscript was a hoax, it has no prophetic value.

The order in which prophecies appear after their publication in 1. Any prophecy could apply to any pope.

Innocent XII’s full name was Antonio Pignatelli del Rastrello (r. His motto was Rastrum in Porta – A Rake at the City- Gate. Rastrello is Italian for ‘rake’. Before becoming pope, Innocent XII was Cardinal of San Pancrazio. The church of San Pancrazio stands just beyond the old city- gate, the Porta San Pancrazio in part of Rome’s Aurelian Wall on the Janiculum. Pius VII (r. 1. 80.

Aquila Rapax – A Rapacious Eagle. The eagle was Napoleon’s adopted emblem. He gave eagles to his commanders after victory. The eagle was fixed to his sceptre, and a large crowned eagle, with talons clutching thunderbolts was placed above his desk at Malmaison. In 1. 80. 9 Napoleon annexed Rome and the Papal States to the French Empire. Pius protested, and was arrested and exiled to Savona, where he was confined until compelled to sign the Concordat of Fontainebleau in 1.

John Paul II (r. 1. His motto is De Labore Solis – During an Eclipse of the Sun. Karol Wojtyla was born on 1. May 1. 92. 0. On the same day, the sun eclipsed. Coincident or not, the sun also eclipsed on 8 April 2. Funeral Mass was being said at the Vatican.

If these three mottoes were applied to other popes, they would either not apply at all, or some form of ‘shoehorning’ to make them fit would be impossible to support by independent, historical evidence. And the same argument applies to many other mottoes. If this is not true, then what is truth—just coincidence?

Now in an Argentinian interview Francis says he ‘rejects conflict’ and ‘I do not cut off heads’ very plainly implying that his critics, those who object to his bizarre notion that the Church is supposed to ‘make a mess’ & the rest, are morally equivalent to jihadists, who are the only people around cutting heads off, but Francis is using the term metaphorically. He doesn’t reject conflict, in fact he has striven to create conflict with anyone who negatively compares his pontificate to his predecessors’. I understand there are some kind of memorial plaques somewhere in Rome that feature all the popes and that they are either all filled up or there is only one left to be filled.  Is this true?“Should Catholics worry about the prophecy of the popes? No.” Should Catholics worry about having a heretical pope? Yes. Do we have one? Yes. Can it be proven?

Yes. Are there heretics at National Catholic Register? Probably. Are there liberals at National Catholic Register? Would Mother Angelica have fired them?

Yes, a long long time ago.#5…So, we should disregard St. Louis de Montfort’s “True Devotion to Mary,” since it was hidden away for 1. Weak argument.  In fact, in relation to other private revelations, some were even condemned before the Church took the opposite view of their authenticity (e. St. Faustina’s Divine Mercy devotion).  I think with these things we should have the attitude of Pope Francis:  “Who are we to judge!” : )In Pace….

In an article of April 4, 2. Osservatore Romano reported this incident after the Pope visited the tomb of St. Peter. It was recounted by Angelo Comastri, Cardinal- Archpriest of St Peter’s Basilica: Climbing back up the stairs and having reached the Clementine Chapel, Pope Francis became absorbed in prayer and repeated with a loud voice the three professions of Peter: “Lord, You are the Christ, Son of the Living God”; “Lord, to whom do we go? You have the words of eternal life”; “Lord, You know all things! You know that I love you!”. At that moment, we had the distinct impression that the life of Peter rose out of centuries past and became present and living in the current Successor of the Apostle Peter.

With me were: Bishop Vittorio Lanzani, delegate of the Fabric of St Peter’s, Mons. Alfred Xuereb and those responsible for the necropolis, Pietro Zander and Mario Bosco. When we took our leave of the Holy Father we thought that he returned to his residence comforted by the echo of Jesus’ words: “You are Peter, the rock on whom I will build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”.

Is this gesture then yet another indication that he is Peter the Roman? Pendergast that is a very good question. I’m going to keep my eyes open to see if I find it in anything I read about Pope Francis. Does anyone know the Confirmation name of Pope Francis.

Daniele you make an interesting point. Nancy D, i agree with what you posted:  Who can deny that we are living in a Time of Great Apostasy, when those who have left Christ’s Church spiritually, have been allowed to remain within His Church physically, causing chaos and confusion, while leading many a astray? Those who deny the inherent personal and relational Dignity of the human person, created in The Image and Likeness of God, deny God, and are thus apostates. We, who are no longer sleeping in Gethsemane, will know if we have a true Pope or an anti Pope. No doubt, there are many anti Christ’s, those who deny The Word of God Is The Truth of Love.